Post by Elva'ree on Apr 17, 2017 16:03:19 GMT
It was asked if Rakshasa are devils or demons, Here is what our GM Malikith has to say on them.
Malikith: Rakshasa are Devils NOT demons
Malikith: When I wrote them into the RoE so many years ago there was no need to make a distintinction between devils and demons
Malikith: And when I remade it... So many times… I did NOT catch that phrasing
Malikith: demos are CE... Devils are LE
Malikith: Rakshasa re LE by nature
Malikith: look at every single monster manual ever... they all SAY "greater demon" but ALSO all say "LE"... can’t have both… one thing is in error
Malikith: Indian myth paints them the same way... Lawful Evil demons... Now having an Alignment change is ONE thing… but by Nature... a thing is a Thing.
Malikith: So I did some additional research and indeed. LE is the proper alignment
Malikith: And in Asia ALL non-humans are considered demons
Malikith: this INCLUDES elves
Malikith: So... the conclusion is that Rakshasa re Devils… not Demons
Malikith: But do recall that As a Race... That means that is the "nature of the beast" as it were. Doesn't mean that the race could not develop beyond that. Rakshasa ARE earthbound. They are Otherworldy or Crossplanar.
Malikith: not like true demons or devils
Malikith: the beginning of the rakshasa race was the Fall of some Deva from the heavens... and instead of becoming Devils (that could go to the Hells) they became mortal
Malikith: the world could continue to have members Fallen like that... indeed. BUT they can also have continued forward AS a race... and procreated and become something different
Elva'ree: Would it be more accurate to call them fiends then? As Fiends are not bound to their nature like most other demons and devils?
Malikith: They are no longer Divine, Infernal or Abyssal
Elva'ree: ah, ok
Malikith: They are mortal. And if they die they do NOT "go back to hell"
Malikith: And like ALL mortals... Alignment is individual... tho their Nature is LE
Malikith: Humans are N by Nature… but as individuals they can in ANY of the 8 directions
Malikith: so too can all mortals
Malikith: THIS is the VERY reasons why Immortals Envy Mortals
Malikith: Yes… mortals can die... they can experience Pain. Loss. Sorrow
Malikith: BUT
Malikith: They are Free to Choose their Own Paths... make their Own Choices... Choose their Own Alignment
Malikith: I hope that helped
Malikith: Hmmm JUST occurred to me to state... "Fresh Fallen" Rakshasa are still Infernal. Ones that Just fell to earth and became Rakshasa. Not Yet became part of the "race"
Malikith: does that make sense?
Malikith: And THOSE would be stuck in their alignment
Elva'ree: Does that mean fresh fallen Rakshasa return to hell when they die and can be banished?
Malikith: They can be yes.
(April 17, 2017)
Malikith: Rakshasa are Devils NOT demons
Malikith: When I wrote them into the RoE so many years ago there was no need to make a distintinction between devils and demons
Malikith: And when I remade it... So many times… I did NOT catch that phrasing
Malikith: demos are CE... Devils are LE
Malikith: Rakshasa re LE by nature
Malikith: look at every single monster manual ever... they all SAY "greater demon" but ALSO all say "LE"... can’t have both… one thing is in error
Malikith: Indian myth paints them the same way... Lawful Evil demons... Now having an Alignment change is ONE thing… but by Nature... a thing is a Thing.
Malikith: So I did some additional research and indeed. LE is the proper alignment
Malikith: And in Asia ALL non-humans are considered demons
Malikith: this INCLUDES elves
Malikith: So... the conclusion is that Rakshasa re Devils… not Demons
Malikith: But do recall that As a Race... That means that is the "nature of the beast" as it were. Doesn't mean that the race could not develop beyond that. Rakshasa ARE earthbound. They are Otherworldy or Crossplanar.
Malikith: not like true demons or devils
Malikith: the beginning of the rakshasa race was the Fall of some Deva from the heavens... and instead of becoming Devils (that could go to the Hells) they became mortal
Malikith: the world could continue to have members Fallen like that... indeed. BUT they can also have continued forward AS a race... and procreated and become something different
Elva'ree: Would it be more accurate to call them fiends then? As Fiends are not bound to their nature like most other demons and devils?
Malikith: They are no longer Divine, Infernal or Abyssal
Elva'ree: ah, ok
Malikith: They are mortal. And if they die they do NOT "go back to hell"
Malikith: And like ALL mortals... Alignment is individual... tho their Nature is LE
Malikith: Humans are N by Nature… but as individuals they can in ANY of the 8 directions
Malikith: so too can all mortals
Malikith: THIS is the VERY reasons why Immortals Envy Mortals
Malikith: Yes… mortals can die... they can experience Pain. Loss. Sorrow
Malikith: BUT
Malikith: They are Free to Choose their Own Paths... make their Own Choices... Choose their Own Alignment
Malikith: I hope that helped
Malikith: Hmmm JUST occurred to me to state... "Fresh Fallen" Rakshasa are still Infernal. Ones that Just fell to earth and became Rakshasa. Not Yet became part of the "race"
Malikith: does that make sense?
Malikith: And THOSE would be stuck in their alignment
Elva'ree: Does that mean fresh fallen Rakshasa return to hell when they die and can be banished?
Malikith: They can be yes.
(April 17, 2017)